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Chapter 30: Developing the Evidence Scene
A real working conversation showing how Catherine used ChatGPT as a drafting and development partner while shaping a difficult scene from The Alpha Flame: Redemption.
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The exchange includes Catherine's own drafts, ChatGPT's suggestions, and Catherine's later response or revision direction. It happened over a series of five nights.
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Catherine's own reflection notes sit between turns. They are separate from the transcript and explain what she used, ignored, changed, or still wanted to revisit.
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Where Chapter 30 Currently Stands
This is the working draft of the chapter as it currently stands, with Catherine's reflections placed at natural revision points.
Chapter 30 - Evidence
Narrated by Beth - 14th October 1983
I’d barely slept.
By the time I arrived at the shop my eyes felt gritty and my head ached.
Every few minutes my hand would drift up beneath my hair, my fingers finding the tender patch of skin just above my collar where my coat had rubbed the side of my neck last night.
Once or twice I caught myself doing it and forced my hand back down.
It didn’t help.
I shivered and turned my attention to the paperwork spread across the desk.
There was an order from Tuesday that needed checking, two invoices waiting to be paid and a note from Natalie reminding me about a fitting later that afternoon.
I read the first invoice three times without taking in a word.
Eventually I gave up and pushed it aside.
Yesterday had changed things.
Until then I’d convinced myself I could keep digging. Every answer seemed to lead somewhere else and, however frightened I was, Maggie was still out there.
But yesterday I’d pushed too far.
If Rosie hadn’t come back through those doors, I’d no idea where I would be this morning.
I couldn’t do it again.
But I couldn’t give up either. There had to be something else I could do.
I needed help.
I leant back in the chair and closed my eyes for a moment, trying to relax.
Then the bell gave a cheerful tinkle above the shop door.
“Beth,” Rosie called. “Are you free?”
I pushed yesterday back where it belonged, opened my eyes, and got to my feet.
“Hello. How can I help you?”
The woman smiled.
“I have a Christmas party to go to in December, and I need something amazing to wear.”
I somehow managed to brighten my smile.
“Then you’ve come to the right place.”
The next half an hour passed in a blur. I switched onto autopilot, asking the same questions I always asked and making suitably enthusiastic noises at answers I barely heard.
To tell the truth, I couldn’t have repeated a single thing I’d said afterwards, but she ordered a dress all the same.
“We’ll see you in a few weeks for a fitting,” I said as she left.
The door closed behind her and the smile fell from my face.
Rosie was watching me from across the shop.
I tried to ignore her, busying myself with the invoices, writing a couple of cheques, but a few minutes later she appeared beside me.
“You’ve been somewhere else all morning.”
I glanced towards the back of the shop. Natalie was sorting through a rail near the changing rooms while Rebecca was further back in the workshop area, tidying away some fabric.
“I keep thinking about yesterday,” I murmured.
Rosie rested her hands on the counter beside mine.
“Me too.”
For a moment I didn’t say anything.
“There has to be something I can do.” I rubbed a hand across my face. “There just has to be.”
Rosie nodded.
“But what? I mean that bloke nearly dragged you back into the building, Beth. If I hadn’t come through that door when I did…”
“Don’t,” I protested.
Rosie stopped.
Neither of us needed to finish it.
“We got lucky,” she said quietly. “I don’t think we should rely on getting lucky again.”
“Neither do I.”
She glanced across the shop and moved a little closer.
“What about the police?” she whispered.
A shudder ran down my spine and I shook my head.
“I don’t trust them,” I said.
“You might have to.” Rosie paused. “That said though, what would you even say to them?”
“What do you mean?” I shrugged, “I’d tell them what happened.”
For a moment Rosie didn’t respond, then finally, she said, “And what did happen?”
“You know what happened.”
“Yeah,” she started. “You went to the Ashdown Trust and got a bad feeling and left.”
I gave a deep frown.
“And then later you basically tried to break back in and then saw Elen leaving the flat. Presumably the flat she lives in.”
“Yes, exactly.”
“There’s nothing illegal about that, Beth. In fact, the only person trying something illegal was you,” she whispered.
“But you know it wasn’t like that,” I protested.
Rosie placed her hand on my arm.
“I do. Yes. Absolutely. And that’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying is the police need evidence.”
“But we know she was in Wales.”
“Do you?”
“Yes. You know I do.”
“But do you really though? I mean, can you prove it? And even if you could, there’s no law against having a holiday. She’s allowed to visit family.”
I felt myself starting to get annoyed.
“I thought you were on my side,” I snapped.
“Beth. I am. I really am. But based on that, if you were the police, what would you do?”
For a moment I went quiet, running the conversation through my head once more.
Eventually, I replied, “You’re right. Sorry.”
Rosie shook her head.
“You’ve nothing to apologise for. I want Maggie back as much as you do. But we need more than that.”
I turned, checking where Natalie and Rebecca were, scanning the shop. Then I turned back.
“There is more.”
Rosie looked puzzled.
I checked Rebecca was still occupied before lowering my voice.
“Do you remember the day Maggie and Rob broke into Sophie’s safe?”
Rosie stared at me.
“Christ, do I. It took my nerves a week to get over it.”
Despite myself, I almost smiled.
Then Rosie’s expression changed.
“You never told me what he found.”
“No,” I said softly.
She thought about it for a moment.
“To be honest, I’d forgotten you even had it.”
“There’s been a lot going on.”
Her eyes narrowed slightly. “Was it important?”
“Very.”
“And you still have it?”
“Sort of.”
Rosie gave me a curious look.
“I know where it is.”
She moved a little closer.
“Then why didn’t you give it to Graham with the rest?”
I glanced towards Rebecca.
Rosie followed my gaze.
“I can’t tell you here.”
Her eyes stayed on Rebecca for a moment before returning to me.
When she looked back at me, the curiosity had gone from her face.
“Does she know?”
“No.”
“Is it about her?”
My stomach tightened.
“Please, Rosie. Not here.”
The bell above the door tinkled and we moved apart as two women stepped into the shop.
Rosie turned towards them with a smile.
“Good morning.”
I stayed behind the counter, pretending to straighten the order book.
When Rosie glanced back at me, I knew the conversation wasn’t over.
The rest of the morning passed quickly. The shop grew busier as lunchtime approached as it often did, leaving little opportunity for anything more than the occasional glance between us.
Rebecca spent most of it with Natalie, still finding her feet but already looking more comfortable than she had a few days ago.
Normally I would have been pleased.
Today, every time I looked at her, all I could see was her father.
Simon Jones.
She had no idea what I knew about him.
Shortly after twelve, I checked the clock on the wall and reached beneath the counter for my handbag.
“I need to nip to the post office,” I announced. “I’ll grab some sandwiches while I’m out. Anyone want anything?”
Natalie looked up immediately.
“Cheese and pickle, please.”
“Rebecca?”
She looked startled to have been asked.
“Oh… erm, anything. I don’t mind.”
“That’s not an order.”
A shy smile appeared.
“Prawn mayonnaise?”
“Prawn mayonnaise it is.”
I turned towards Rosie, but she was already reaching for her coat.
“I’m not sure… I’ll come with you.”
Our eyes met.
Neither of us needed to say why.
“You’ll be all right for a while, won’t you?” I asked Natalie.
“Of course.”
She sounded confident enough, although the brief look she gave around the shop suggested she wasn’t quite as certain as she wanted us to believe.
It was lunchtime, after all.
“We won’t be long,” I assured her.
I slipped my handbag over my shoulder and followed Rosie towards the door.
Outside, the cold air felt good against my face.
For the first minute or so neither of us mentioned the conversation from earlier. We simply walked along the High Street, joining the lunchtime crowd moving between the shops.
Rosie stayed beside me while I went into the post office, then we stopped for sandwiches on the way back.
It wasn’t until we stepped outside again that she looked at me.
“So?”
I knew exactly what she meant.
I glanced along the High Street towards the shop.
“Not here.”
“Where then?”
“The park.”
Rosie nodded and fell into step beside me.
We crossed the road and headed into the park, leaving the noise of the High Street behind us.
It was quiet at this time of year. Most of the summer flowers had disappeared and fallen leaves lay scattered across the grass and paths in shades of brown and gold. A woman pushed a pram in the distance while an elderly man waited patiently beneath a tree as his dog investigated something amongst the leaves.
We found an empty bench away from the path. The wooden slats were cold even through my coat, but I hardly noticed.
Rosie handed me my sandwich. I placed it beside me without opening it while she kept hold of hers, slowly turning the paper bag between her hands.
Neither of us seemed in any hurry to start.
Eventually Rosie stopped fiddling with the bag.
“So, what are you going to do?”
I stared across the park.
“I meant what I said in the shop. I really don’t want to go to the police.”
“Because of Graham?”
I didn’t answer straight away.
Rosie waited.
“Maggie trusts him,” she said eventually.
“I know she does.”
I looked down at my hands.
“But he arrested her for murder, Rosie. She’s still on bail for it. He’s questioned both of us before, and he was awful to me. I walked out because I couldn’t stand sitting there while he picked everything apart.”
I rubbed my thumb slowly across my palm.
“Maybe he was only doing his job. Maybe Maggie’s right about him and he really is trying to help. I hope she is. But none of that makes me trust him.”
Rosie looked away across the park.
“And there’s Baker,” I added.
“Yeah.”
“Whatever I give Graham, I’ve got no idea where it goes afterwards. Whether Baker sees it, whether somebody else sees it… If he gets hold of it then it’s gone.” I shook my head. “I can’t. I just can’t.”
“Then don’t.”
I looked at her.
Rosie gave a small shrug.
“If it comes to that, Graham isn’t the only policeman in Birmingham.”
“I suppose not.”
She was quiet for a moment.
“What about that woman who came to see you after Rob died?”
I frowned, then realised who she meant.
“Summerhill?”
“Yeah. She’s nothing to do with Baker, is she?”
“Not as far as I know.”
I could still picture her sitting in the living room of the flat. She’d listened rather than trying to catch me out. I hadn’t felt as though every word I said was being weighed against something else.
And she was a woman.
That mattered more than I wanted to admit.
“She’s over the road as well,” Rosie said. “You wouldn’t even have to walk far.”
I managed a small laugh.
DS Summerhill.
Somehow the thought of talking to her didn’t make my stomach tighten quite as much.
“Maybe.”
Rosie nodded but didn’t push it.
For a little while we sat in silence again.
Then she looked down at the unopened sandwich in her hands.
“So… what was in the safe?”
There it was.
My stomach tightened.
I’d known she was going to ask. It was the reason we were sitting out here instead of eating our lunch in the staff room. But knowing it was coming hadn’t made it any easier.
“Loads,” I said, shaking my head. “But he left most of it. He only took what my mum told us about in her letter.”
Rosie waited.
“She said there was a red book and some photographs.”
Rosie stopped turning the sandwich bag in her hands.
“In Sophie’s safe?”
I nodded.
“Mum said the book was the key to the accounts...”
“And the photos?” Rosie asked quietly.
I stared down at my feet resting on the grass.
“What sort of photos?”
I didn’t want to look at her. I could already feel the tears gathering, that horrible pressure behind my eyes as I fought to keep them there.
Eventually I turned.
Rosie saw my face and reached for my hand, wrapping her fingers around mine and giving them a gentle squeeze.
“Beth?”
“They’re horrible, Rosie.”
Something in my voice must have reached her because she put the sandwich down.
“What do you mean?”
I tried to find a way of saying it that didn’t put the pictures back in my head, but there wasn’t one. I could already feel them pushing their way back in.
“Horrible, disgusting photos of men doing things with girls. Young girls.”
Rosie said nothing.
“Girls like me. Like I was back then.”
Her face changed.
I looked away before I had to watch her understand.
“Oh, Beth.”
“Some of them are just…” I stopped and swallowed, but the words still wouldn’t come properly. “Awful. They show everything.”
Rosie’s free hand came up to her mouth.
I could see them again.
I tried to push the images away, but the harder I fought them, the clearer they became.
“I’ve not seen them all,” I muttered. “I… I couldn’t. Maggie saw them. I saw her face. That was enough.”
Rosie’s eyes filled almost immediately.
“Jesus.”
“Cindy’s in some of them.”
Rosie closed her eyes.
“Other girls too. I don’t know most of them.”
My hands had started shaking. I tried to stop them, curling my fingers into my palm, but Rosie had already noticed. She tightened her grip around mine.
“There’s something you’re not telling me, isn’t there, Beth?”
I looked away.
The shaking was worse now. I could feel it spreading through my arms, my breathing becoming shallow as I stared across the park and desperately tried to get myself back under control.
“Beth… What is it?”
I couldn’t answer.
A tear escaped and ran down my cheek. Then another.
Slowly, I turned back towards her.
Rosie caught my eyes and something in her expression broke.
“Oh God.”
She drew in a breath.
“You’re in some of them, aren’t you?”
I stared down at our hands.
“Yeah.”
The word barely came out.
Rosie squeezed my fingers.
“How many?”
“I don’t know. I’ve only seen a few.”
Rosie looked away for a moment. Her lips pressed together as she tried to compose herself.
“When was this?”
I wished she hadn’t asked.
“Four years ago,” I said, my voice barely more than a whisper.
Seeing myself at fifteen had been bad enough. I knew what had happened before the shutter clicked and what happened afterwards, but I’d never seen myself from the outside before.
I’d never realised how young I looked.
Memories faded around the edges. Sometimes I could almost convince myself that things hadn’t happened quite the way I remembered.
The photographs didn’t let me.
They had caught it and kept it.
“These men… Did you know them?”
I shook my head slowly.
“Not most of them.”
Rosie looked horrified.
“But some of them?”
I nodded, but I couldn’t look at her.
“Who?” she asked, her voice trembling.
I felt my stomach lurch.
For a few seconds I couldn’t say it. I could hear the traffic beyond the trees, somebody laughing in the distance, Rosie breathing beside me.
“Simon Jones,” I said eventually.
Rosie’s face drained of colour.
“Simon Jones? As in Rebecca’s dad?”
I nodded, unable to stop the tears now.
“Fuck.”
I glanced up to see Rosie looking at me, really looking.
“That’s why you didn’t give them to Graham,” Rosie whispered.
I nodded.
“I… I just couldn’t.”
There was no judgement in her face. Somehow that made it worse.
“If I gave them to him, he’d look at them. Then Baker would look at them. Then God knows who else.”
My voice cracked and I had to stop.
“They’d be evidence. They’d have to.”
Rosie wiped beneath one eye.
“Beth… I…”
“I know what they are. I know what they could prove. But they’re me, Rosie.”
That did it.
Whatever control I had left disappeared and the tears came properly.
“Somebody… Some animal, took photographs of the worst things that ever happened to me, and Sophie had them in her fucking safe.”
Rosie stared at me, her face drawn and pale.
I wiped angrily at my cheeks, furious with the tears now as much as anything else.
“How dare she? I just don’t get it.”
The thought had bothered me ever since I’d seen them, although until now, I’d never properly allowed myself to follow it.
“All those men. All those photographs. She kept them because she could use them.”
Rosie stared at me.
“Blackmail?”
“Yeah.”
“Jesus Christ.”
She looked away, rubbing both hands over her face.
For a while neither of us spoke.
Then Rosie lowered her hands. Something had changed in her expression.
“Beth…”
I looked at her.
“The photographs of you.”
My stomach tightened again.
“What about them?”
“Simon’s in them?”
I nodded, the memory cutting through me.
“Yes.”
Rosie stared at me.
“But Simon’s Sophie’s dad.”
“I know.”
“So why the hell would she have that?”
I frowned.
“What?”
“You just said she kept these photographs so she could use them. Blackmail.”
She shook her head slowly.
“But that means Sophie had a photograph of her own dad abusing you.”
I stared at her.
“Why would she need that?”
I didn’t answer.
I couldn’t.
Until then I’d never really thought about the photograph beyond what was in it. I’d seen myself at fifteen. I’d seen Simon. That had been enough.
But Rosie was right. Why did Sophie have it?
I looked across the park.
“At least now we’ve got them,” I stammered.
Rosie went still.
“She’ll want them back.”
I nodded.
“Wouldn’t you?”
Rosie stared at me.
That was what frightened me.
Yesterday, a man had nearly dragged me back inside the Ashdown Trust. Elen was here in Birmingham. Maggie had disappeared.
Until that moment, those things had felt like separate pieces that I couldn’t quite fit together.
Now I wasn’t so sure.
“You okay?” I asked.
Rosie took a breath and nodded.
“No,” she said after a moment. “But I will be.”
Something about the answer caught me.
No fuss. No pretending that what I’d told her hadn’t affected her. No attempt to make me feel better by telling me she was fine.
She simply would be.
I squeezed her hand.
“Maggie’s lucky to have you.”
Rosie sniffed and wiped beneath her eye.
“I’ve been telling her that for years.”
A laugh escaped me before I could stop it.
Rosie smiled too.
For a few moments we simply sat there, shoulders almost touching, listening to the sounds of the park around us. The cold was beginning to creep through my coat and my sandwich still lay untouched beside me.
Eventually Rosie glanced down at it.
“We’re going to have to go back soon.”
“I know.”
Neither of us moved.
“So…” she said after another moment. “The evidence.”
I nodded.
“If you’re going to take it to Summerhill, we need to get it first.”
“Yeah.”
“Where is it?”
I let out a slow breath.
“That’s the problem. It’s at Rob’s.”
Rosie turned towards me.
“His house?”
I nodded.
Her expression changed immediately.
“Oh.”
For a moment that was all either of us said.
“Maggie gave it back to him to look after,” I explained. “We didn’t want it at the flat after what happened before, and there was no way we could keep something like that at the shop. Rob said it would be safe at his.”
Rosie stared down at her hands.
“And it’s still there?”
“As far as I know.”
“Do you know where he put it?”
“Yeah. Maggie made sure I knew, just in case anything happened and she couldn’t get to it herself.”
The words caught me as soon as I’d said them.
Just in case anything happened.
Something had.
Rosie seemed to hear it too. Her eyes dropped for a moment before she asked, “Where?”
“In his room. He put it inside an old Cluedo box at the bottom of his wardrobe. Right at the back, underneath a load of other stuff.”
Rosie looked at me.
“Cluedo?”
“Apparently.”
“I guess that’s a suitable place for a collection of blackmail photographs.”
“I think it was his idea of a joke.”
The faint amusement disappeared almost as quickly as it had arrived.
“And his mum and dad don’t know it’s there?”
“I can’t imagine so.”
Rosie let out a long breath.
“Bloody hell.”
I looked away across the park.
Suddenly it didn’t seem quite as simple as collecting a box from Rob’s bedroom.
His parents had lost their son only weeks ago. For all I knew, his room was still exactly as he’d left it, and somewhere amongst his clothes and belongings was a Cluedo box containing something Rob had hidden for us.
“I can’t just walk in there and take it.”
“No.”
“We’ll have to ask them.”
Rosie nodded.
The thought made my stomach tighten. Rob wasn’t the only person they’d lost. Maggie was carrying their grandchild, and now she had disappeared too.
“They know Maggie’s missing,” I said. “Mum told them.”
“Then we tell them you think Rob had something that might help find her.”
“And hope they let me get it.”
“Yeah.”
I stared across the park.
Suddenly it didn’t seem quite as simple as collecting a box from Rob’s bedroom.
“I’ll come with you,” Rosie said.
I looked at her.
“We can see how they are and take it from there.”
I nodded slowly.
“Okay.”
Rosie picked up her sandwich and looked at it with considerably less enthusiasm than she’d had when we bought it.
“God, I’m starving.”
I stared at her.
Rosie caught me looking.
“What?”
A smile began to creep across my face.
“Nothing.”
“Beth.”
“I’m just wondering what happened to sweet, innocent Rosie.”
She gave me a look.
“She flashed her tits to an old man in the Ashdown Trust yesterday. Keep up.”
I laughed.
It felt strange after everything we’d just talked about, but perhaps that was why I needed it.
Rosie stood and offered me her hand.
“Come on. We should get back.”
I let her pull me to my feet.
We gathered up all four sandwiches and started back across the park towards the High Street.
By the time we reached the park entrance, the traffic had grown louder again and the shop was visible on the other side of the road. It felt strange returning to something so ordinary after everything I’d just told her.
Rosie glanced at the bags we were carrying as we waited for a gap in the traffic.
“We’d better tell them the post office was busy.”
“Very busy.”
The traffic cleared and we crossed the road towards the shop.
Natalie looked up as we walked in, her face full of relief.
“How’s it been?” I asked.
She wiped her brow.
“The second you walked out the door it went mental. We’ve sold three dresses in half an hour.”
“Oh wow!” Rosie exclaimed.
“Sorry we took so long. The post office was rammed. There are so many people around today.”
We carried the sandwiches through to the staff room and sat down to eat.
Rebecca started talking about last night’s Coronation Street.
“I don’t know why every wedding always ends in disaster,” she laughed.
A deep discussion followed, with Natalie and Rosie throwing in their thoughts on the scriptwriting before Natalie suggested they should make a new soap about four girls working in a dress shop.
They laughed as they ate.
I joined in when I needed to, but my mind was somewhere else.
“You’re off this weekend, aren’t you?” Rosie asked Rebecca.
“Yeah, if that’s okay?” She glanced at me.
“Of course it is.”
“What are you up to?” Natalie asked, ever interested.
Rebecca smiled.
“It’s my nan’s birthday. We’re all going up to see her. It should be fun.”
“Is this your mum’s mum?” Rosie asked.
Rebecca nodded.
“Hell, yeah. We don’t see Dad’s parents. No, this is Nanny Ashdown...”
Ashdown.
I stopped chewing.
Rebecca carried on talking, but I was no longer listening.
Her mother was an Ashdown.
Barbara.
I stared at Rebecca.
How the hell had I not thought of her?
“I’ve got to nip out,” I announced.
Rosie looked at me immediately.
“Now?”
I was already getting to my feet.
“Yeah.”
I grabbed my bag and headed towards the front of the shop.
“Beth?”
I heard the question in Rosie’s voice, but I didn’t stop.
“There’s something I need to do. I’ll be back in a bit.”
And before she could say anything else, I was gone.
